This is the name of a movement (initiated from Vancouver).
Here is also an article about it.
I really would like to hear your opinions about this topic in general.
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8 comments:
There were always people who don't want children, I don't think its deviant, and also I think everybody has periods of life, when they dont want them, later or before they do. I dont see where the problem is with that, it seems they cant accept it, so they gather to support each other and confirm that such things exsists...
I don't think that everybody should have children. Eaarth is crowded already. But the pressure is there, I know, that you supposed to have children sometimes in your life. The society became quite flexibile about the timing and the family setup for this, but no mercy about not having children.
They say it's selfish. It is also selfish not to have dogs because they are our best friends (and pain in the *ss). It's just not an imperative to have it: unlike kids.
So I find the pressure is on and while I didn't like the tone of the website and the article (I guess they are too defensive), I welcome the idea of letting go the child-obsession: some (many) people are just not meant to be parents, but they do it because of the pressure and this results in unhappy families on an overcrowded planet.
You two have basically already said what I had on this subject...apart from the fact that I think that everyone is screwing him- or herself up by not trying the experience of having a kid! My mum always says that it was like having a second childhood, having to look at little things like ants and flowers with a different eye - then re-discover pictures, books and films. On the contrary to declaring being selfish for NOT having a kid, I think having one is the most selfish thing on earth: creating a life to whom you will be the source of all good, a sort of God (at least for a while). An extra person to love and who will love you back - isn't it the ultimate degree of selfishness?
But it's true that not everybody is cut out for this, so those kids are better off not born. But the people who finally don't have them are rarely the same as the ones who shouldn't have children...
Besides, sticking together like this sounds just as stupid as a club for people who like wearing ties: does it really make them a group? Sounds like a granfalloon to me (e.g. "If you wish to study a granfalloon, just remove the skin of a toy balloon"—Bokonon)
Do you have more of the Bokonon wisdoms? It's soo good!
I think being the God for someone lasts longer when you have a dog...but it is just not the same.
The scary thing is, that by the time you figure out whether this baby thing is for you or not, it is already too late.
Here's one, from Bokonon's "Republic":
"The hand that stocks the drug stores rules the world."
or, more related to God:
And God said, "Let Us make living creatures out of mud, so the mud can see what We have done." And God created every living creature that now moveth, and one was man. Mud as man alone could speak. God leaned close as mud as man sat up, looked around, and spoke. Man blinked. "What is the purpose of all this?" he asked politely.
"Everything must have a purpose?" asked God.
"Certainly," said man.
"Then I leave it to you to think of one for all this," said God.
And He went away.
here is the whole thing, just in case:
http://www.cs.uni.edu/~wallingf/personal/bokonon.html
..and my favourite citation in relation to kids - from "Lost in translation"
Bob: The most terrifying day of your life is the day your first kid is born.
Charlotte: Nobody ever tells you that.
Bob: Your life, as you know it... is gone. Never to return. But they learn how to walk, and they learn how to talk... and you want to be with them. And they turn out to be the most delightful people you will ever meet in your life.
I discovered these comments just now, what a great little surprize!
My favorite part from that movie is when they lie on the bed after the kareokee-night. So innocent and so intimate. That moment worth an Oscar.
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